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I bought a refurbished node 2i last fall. So you'd be spoilt for choice but you'd be looking for sonic characteristics by then *fingers crossed*. Select Upgrade Check - Player, allow the app to search for updates. I will be feeding the successful candidate into a Cambridge CXA60 integrated amp playing through Dynaudio Emit M20 speakers. For full MQA, please use the analogue outs of the NODE 2i and bypass the DAC all together. I would just like to say thank you to John who rang my husband to give support. I want to replace the Shield with a Node 2i but I want to retain the Benchmark DAC. Through this forum, met a fellow suburb who has an external dac but wanted hear the bluesound coz wanted to minimise the system and have multiroom streaming. Started 10 hours ago, By I'm a new member looking to improve on the DAC in a BlueSound Node 2 (not the 2i) by piggy-backing another higher-quality DAC. Sampling rate: 32-bit/384kHz. PeterRM By The dealer I purchased my Bluesound Node 2i suggested i connect it by way of Audioquest Carbon digital coax cable to an inexpensive Pro-Ject S2 DAC. Started Tuesday at 01:14 PM, By Bluesound NODE 2i Hi-Res Wireless Music. @Balvenie Is it your first streaming system? Bluos for playing files. Automatically: When a new upgrade is available from our upgrade servers, your Bluesound Player will notify you within 24 hours of its availability. 3. I currently have a white/silver system too, so it would be jarring as much as I agree that sound quality trumps. My library is on a HDD via USB into the Node. I'm happy with my inexpensive DAC between my Node 2 and my tube amp feeding my speakers. Thats the beauty of the Node 2i. I use a Plinius 9200 amp (very neutral) to power my speakers.Â. 3. Bluesound Node 2 & 2i 0 Products And once you've had Dirac you can't go back its that simple, music just sounds lifeless without it. To bypass the DAC of your external amp, use the RCA analog connection << in this way, the Node has already done the digital to audio conversion using its own DAC. Does the CXA60 amp power they Dynaudio M20s ok? Im tossing up between the CXN V2 or node 2i+external DAC (that roughly equates to a $1k budget for the external DAC). Don’t think you could go wrong with either of those DACS @nowallet. I'm a little confused. Once you know what is lacking and desire it, then find the DAC. matthewhurst Started 14 hours ago, By With $1k budget for a DAC you have plenty of choice and can get something good quality particularly if you buy secondhand. Started Wednesday at 11:03 PM, By you do need to format the external hard drive for the Node2i to read it and then you will have no issues whatsoever. Our Engineering team … Any review of a product in context of the Bluesound NODE 2i will read like a love letter to the NODE itself! Soundguru Started Thursday at 05:30 AM, By I was happy with no external DAC for a long time. But if you want a single box solution, go NAD C658.  It costs a little more but comes with BluOS, a better DAC than 2i, CXN and Dirac Live. The latter is likely the path I'll choose.Â. mud_shark @08Boss302 Do you mean you use the Ares with the Node 2i? Started June 28, By As far as audio quality in my situation and using my connections, is there any reason for me to upgrade to the Node 2i… I have a 4 Terabyte Portable Hard Drive connected to my Node 2i and it reads all 2,500 uncompressed albums  no problem. Food for thought. Started Tuesday at 07:47 AM, By Ideally (I think) I'd like to let the Bluesound do the MQA decoding and then output 24/96 digital PCM to the Benchmark for D-A conversion. The Bluesound Node 2i successfully streamed lossless audio from Amazon Music HD from 16 bit / 44.1 kHz up through 24 bit / 192 kHz. Would that work? I am choosing between a Naim Dac V1 and a Aqua La Voce S2. Started Wednesday at 04:38 AM, By Â. The next generation. Sources: Bluesound Node 2i, Cambridge CXC CD transport Hence me being interested in the Node2i digital out at 24/96 to the Benchmark DAC3. also most suitable speakers. Just more of everything - sound stage, warmth/mids, vocals popped and the highs were so clear and detailed. Started Wednesday at 09:26 AM, By Thanks for your comment! music streamers any recommendation? More great info. Please select Help Send Support Request in the App so we may see the log file and help troubleshoot. If you are wanting family friendly then the BlueOS interface ticks that box, user friendly and intuitive to use.  Cheers, That's great to hear and that's a top point about Dirac. On 24/09/2020 at 2:21 PM, Hi-Fi Whipped said: On 13/10/2020 at 10:11 AM, nowallet said: Cambridge CXN V2 or Bluesound Node 2i paired with external DAC? Started March 9, 2017, By Â. Basically everything felt a tad more real. No format drama, nothing negative at all. Digital out from the Node 2i would only do half the unfolding - I get that. Dear folks, Im in a fortunate position to be able to upgrade soon from my Raspberry Pi/Volumio streamer to a better and more family-friendly setup (kinda). Haven't had the chance to listen to the geisler units but it's a DAC that also rarely receives negative comments especially on these forums.  The owner is also a top person, when I was looking at DACs I had a great conversation with him about his units my oppo and what I was looking at.Â, I think between the denafrips, geisler, schïit and the list goes on if you are in the same comparative price range alot of subjectivity on what's best etc will creep in.Â. Started Tuesday at 01:35 PM, By This will be my first dac … To bypass the Node's DAC, use a digital output (either COAX or Optical) << sending digital out of the Node ensures your external device does the digital to analog conversion . I am quite pleased with its offerings thus far but am looking at taking the next step. Tough choice between this and the local and formidable Gieseler DAC. I then bought a Topping D90 DAC and now we're talkin!! September 23 in Beginners & Purchasing Advice, I'm in a fortunate position to be able to upgrade soon from my Raspberry Pi/Volumio streamer to a better and more family-friendly setup (kinda). Make sure your cable is fully inserted. Otherwise it's a good unit as a starting point for a streamer IMO, I however do plan on either upgrading it or running it through an external dac in the future. Mr_Gadget All component separate.Â, Based on the above, sound quality and experience are good to better to best in the above order, i.e. An upgrade from average quality Burr Brown PCM5122 DAC inside current Node 2? relliksalta Condition: New. Yep, first venture into streaming but did try a Cocktail Audio unit before purchasing the CXN, A Bluesound Node 2i is on the way! Currently bypassing the Node 2i DAC via coax to my Anthem DAC until I replace the Node 2i with the Naim Uniti Nova or NAD M33. A $180 bargain. Started March 21, 2009, By Seems like there are a lot of good options for DAC around $1k to $1.5k. Audiophiles approach the Bluesound Node 2i with suspicion. With a cursory glance at the Node 2i’s spec sheet, nothing much appears to have changed between the models to dictate so dramatic an upturn in this generation’s sonic performance. The sound quality improved big time. Since its launch in 2018, the best streaming DAC Bluesound Node 2i has helped many HiFi enthusiasts to upgrade their existing system in streaming and wireless music playback. Best music streamers 2020: upgrade to a wireless system. To bypass the Node's DAC, use a digital output (either COAX or Optical) << sending digital out of the Node ensures your external device does the digital to analog conversion . pine weasel Hi, I’m looking for upgrade advice: Auralic Aries G2 or Lumin U1 Mini. For family friendly Chromecast/bluetooth/airplay can't be beaten. The advantage of having an optical input is that an old CD player’s transport mechanism can be used to play CDs while taking advantage of the much newer DAC inside the Bluesound Node 2i. We are using an Exposure 15 as the Exposure 17 is still in transit. Bluesound Node 2 & 2i 0 Products I was actually already looking at the Bluesound Node 2i, so this is a timely thread. @Hi-Fi Whipped Thanks for all the info. I will get to know it well and then consider purchasing an external DAC to feed the Node and my CD transport through it. https://www.13thnote.net/2020/08/26/bluesound-node-2i-punches-well-above-its-weight/, That DAC seems to be above $2k at the moment. As the Node 2 additionally acts as a Spotify Connect host, I tend to favour the Spotify app over the Bluesound variant. I hope this makes sense. Hi, I’m looking for upgrade advice: Auralic Aries G2 or Lumin U1 Mini. Â, I also have patchy wifi and rarely have any issues with mine, and it’s located at the far end of our house furthest away from the modem.Â, The Kompakt just came out but there should be some feedback from owners soon.   According to Clay (designer & manufacturer), it may be his best DAC yet,  To give you an idea on why Gieseler Dacs are held in high regard, have a look at this (and I will update when Kompakt impressions are posted), I  use NAD C-658 and I am happy with it. It can be a one stop shop streamer/dac and accomodate an upgrade to a higher end dac, whilst functioning as a streamer. I bought a cable that was supposed to fit at both ends (and it does) but it seems that the Node2i does not output anything via this cable, I am sure that this is not a cable issue or an issue with the Mojo. If you have a treated room than go with Node + external dac. Item Information. I'd love to hear of other DACs so I can compare them to the Kompakt. So we swapped one afternoon. I’ve been using a Bluesound Node 2i (with BluOS Controller on an iPad Pro) as my primary network streamer for the … sorry for the newbie question. It looks like I can play MQA tracks from Tidal via the Node 2i’s DAC … The only complaint I have with this whole system is the Amazon HD interface with the Bluesound … By And on non-MQA content, the DAC3 will be miles better. U_J The sound is clear but can become wearing after hours of listening I find. Started Wednesday at 01:05 PM, By At this price point I really want to maximise my purchase and ensure it matches my components. Very good DAC and music streamer, black in color. All Rights Reserved. I like the possibilities with the external DAC and didn't really consider the C658 (the design is a bit of a turn off IMO). :-(. Started 15 hours ago, By This doesn't affect the general intention. In another post on this forum (https://support1.bluesound.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360037450874-Noob-question-on-bypassing-the-Node-2i-DAC) it is said that by using RCA the internal DAC from the Node 2i is used. I forgot that was a part if the feature set. What are your thoughts on this pleasant conundrum? agelessgoodguy Immediately sold all others this is so good. I  am a firm believer in Chinese DAC tech now.  I have heard others much more expensive that did not sound better to me, so I'm staying as is for now. Wow this community is great - thanks for all of the advice! The Bluesound NODE 2i is an all in one Multi-Room HI-Res wireless music streamer that reinvents your HIFI systems and equipment. Sony Bravia 65A8H OLED, Panasonic P60VT60 Calibrated by Chad B Anthem MRX-720, Naim Uniti Nova, Vintage Marantz Model 22, Oppo UDP-203, Bluesound Node 2i… Some wonder how one streamer can sound different from another if you are using the same DAC. A streamer. Details about Bluesound NODE 2 / 2i upgrade - low noise PSU interface. My current hifi consists of a nVidia Shield TV feeding a Benchmark DAC3 into dual mono power amps, speakers. I was hoping someone would just say stick with the CXN so I can match it to my existing CA gear  But this is a good dilemma. demoiree Ladies and Gents. The sound is good but i am considering using the Node as a streamer only and buying an external DAC for a fuller sound with a bit more gravitas to it. He told me the the Pro-Ject, even though it is very inexpensive is better than the DAC inside the Bluesound. Up to 24/96 - it depends on the MQA content... ...you may be surprised at the on board DAC's performance but of course, we will let your ears decide. 2. Both highly regarded and if you wanted to move on they would be in high demand. Dear folks, Im in a fortunate position to be able to upgrade soon from my Raspberry Pi/Volumio streamer to a better and more family-friendly setup (kinda). Listening just last night for about 2 hours and I had to unplug the Node 2i two times to get it to reboot. Powered by Invision Community. As a compact music server with built-in DAC that dares to serve up the highest quality music-streaming services, this thing seems … Mytek Brooklyn DAC+ Price: $2,085. With the 2,which is in my secondary system,I run a very inexpensive Beresford Bushmaster mkII. The 2i is in my main system,and I’m running an older April Music DA100 Signature. Hi-res support: 24-bit/192kHz. Don't think an audition will happen anytime soon with this Melbourne lockdown so I will take a chance after digging into the sound of each one a little further. We are having annoying issues with sound from the TV through the Node2i. Pugthepug So Bluesound is both streamer and DAC, CXA is power amp, 2) Bluesound to CXA via digital coax. Anyway, I use the COAX out of the Node 2i to a DAC (Sabaj D5) and I've never had any issues whatsoever with the Node … Maybe I’m doing something wrong, but I haven’t opened the app since setting up my Node. Started Yesterday at 06:39 PM, Sound Media Group When used with an external DAC the job of the Node 2i is solely to get your music to your speakers. So instead we are using a Toslink cable. In my case I would like the MQA feature to hold if I ever used an external dac. To get me to spend more will require significant improvement in SQ. This post suggests to use COAX to bypass the DAC. Australian Business Number 79 662 719 408. The internal DAC of Bluesound Node 2i is decent.ofc unless if you want spend over 1000 eur for an external DAC,it would sound a bit better but not that much in your whole system.one advantage of node 2i is it's capable of decoding MQA format.It's very practical if you stream Tidal through the Node 2i… Only bought the one I  have as an experiment. Also, the USB on it is designed to match with a USB stick and you may need to reformat things to get it to work. I will try to hear the C658 to confirm.Â. The cxa60 does OK but when you jump up to the cxa80 you realise you were missing out a bit.Â, The m20 will also improve a bit more if you move to a better amp than the cambridge units. Full Range https://support1.bluesound.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360037450874-Noob-question-on-bypassing-the-Node-2i-DAC. A pop-up will appear to start the upgrade process, or to delay the update … ( I also have a Node N100) The 2 and 2i I run external DAC’s. Would the sound quality gain be substantial going with the node 2i+extDAC? So which way are you leaning? What did you have before and how does it compare to that? Therefore we are now using an old DAC and bypassing the Node2i altogether for TV. I have a Node 2,and Node 2i. BluOS is a big reason to jump into the either the 2i or the C658, IMO the best GUI using a free app out there, I find it much better than the Cambridge streaming app which I occasionally use on my CXR200. If I had a black system setup I would've considered the C658 more closely due to Dirac. Am I mixing things up? Our publication is supported by its audience. Benefitting from initial research ploughed, by mutual owner Lenbrook, into the NAD M50.2, the Node 2i is the recipient of thought and time taken. I am choosing between a Naim Dac … The NODE 2i … What would you do? If your using direct Ethernet or modem is close it should be more reliable. I think the looks are terrible enough that I can't consider it. I will definitely check out the link - thanks a tonne. Unfortunately we have decided to return the Node2i. EshDes @nowallet I have a CA CXN V1 and it's quite easy to use. Also if you are even considering adding subs to your 2ch listening the sub integration of Dirac is awesome, seamlessly integrates the subs and front speakers and produces a wall of sound like nothing else I've heard, seamless from bottom to top. The Node 2i has a huge feature set, you certainly get a lot for your money and from the reviews I’ve read it is worthy of a place in a high end system despite it’s low end price.  I don't have your speakers but in my opinion is yes. On the other hand, the Bluesound app is a one-stop-shop for all supported streaming services and can be used to add local network shares, group zones, curate playlists and update … Amazon's own apps are unable to do what the Bluesound ecosystem … I'm rather conservative and would go for the bluesound first. Setting up and configuring your Bluesound Vault 2i is an easy 4 step process listed below: Plug the power cord into the back of the Node on the right side to your power source and watch for the LED on the front side of the Node to turn green. I run a Node 2 digital coneection to a Chord QuteHD DAC and was a big step up from the (not bad) DAC of the Node 2 itself.Â, The NAD C 658 looks like a good option to keep using BlueOS, that is great, and adding DIRAC, that should help a lot in small and not acousticaly treated rooms like mine. However when we disable AV mode we have lip-synch issues.We have these issues whether or not we have the Mojo connected. I primarily play streaming via Tidal. I will be connecting via ethernet so expect a solid network connection for whichever unit I purchase. Im now a C658 convert, for the money theres nothing that comes close to it for features. I've a bluesound2i and CXA81. gary chen However, Bluesound has worked on improving its wireless streamer, and not just in the places you may expect.Between the releases of these two multi-room generations, Bluesound's parent company, Lenbrook, created the NAD Masters M50.2 Bl… ... With the same DAC chip from the amp and the circuit design from the transport, it presents a capable and composed sound with an inviting openness and a good honest, down-the-middle tonal balance. Â. I primarily play streaming via Tidal. Mushroom01 StereoNET (Australia) is part of an international network of publications owned wholly by Sound Media Group (Australia). In order to upgrade your Bluesound Node 2i visit the help section of your BluOS app. Price: $549. I use it with my Denafrips Ares II and am very happy.  I tried the pontus and it was also great but for me lacked a bit of warmth of the AresII and sounded closer to my Oppo 205.  So I went with the Ares II have not once regretted it.  I use the Oppo 205 a lot also but find that works really well for a different type of listening session. Given looks are a major factor the CXN looks like the go, the sound is very good and will fit nicely with what you have. Re-engineered across the board to bring you bigger and bolder sound, more connectivity, and the latest WiFi and Bluetooth technologies, the ultimate wireless hi-res sound system now gives you even more ways to stream and enjoy music, movies, podcasts, and shows in clear high-fidelity. Analogue out to the DAC in doesn't make much sense since the output has already been decoded. Tubularbells Spotify you access via the Spotify app and also Tidal the same. The Node 2i sets your music free by providing multiple analog and digital input/output options and allows you to connect to your high-res music streaming apps like Spotify, Tidal and Amazon Music. I'd love to try the Topping D90 one day too.. Geisler very popular but havent tried one myself but there is a lot members on the forum that have this as their go to. I spend all my time in the Spotify app when streaming.Â, I’m really happy with the Node 2i, but I really want to try Dirac. You might want to consider a DAC with an LED display, one that tells you exactly what the sample rate of the source is, if you're worried about the Node not correctly sending bits to the DAC. The RCA from the mojo would provide anything that came through the Node2I and then processed by the mojo DAC. amirm -- Thanks for this review, as well as many others! Not ideal…we are currently evaluating whether or not we should return the Node2i. I’ve been using a Bluesound Node 2i (with BluOS Controller on an iPad Pro) as my primary network streamer for the past 10 months (I also use an Oppo 205 via DLNA/UPnP with mConnect) . No but its not ugly either, looks understated and a touch classy in my unit IMO but don't let the looks be a decider, we all know its about the sound! The internal DAC of the Node 2i is actually pretty good and you could always start off with that and add a DAC later.  I’m looking to compliment my bluesound node 2i with an external dac. I haven't had any experience with the node but have some Dynaudio DM3/7's which I sometimes use with the CXN.It has Burr Brown dual Dacs from memory and I find them to be a little on the bright side at times. We have had trouble getting the Mojo connected to the Node2i. Started 6 hours ago, By You say to bypass the DAC use RCA (red/white) cables to connect it to my DAC/Amp (integrated DAC). Plenty of options re. To bypass the DAC of your external amp, use the RCA analog connection << in this way, the Node has already done the digital to audio conversion using its own DAC. nowallet, Started Yesterday at 08:40 AM, By High-end DAC technology built into every Bluesound Player allows the NODE 2i to decode and stream MQA files in all their lossless glory. ArtCor In my case I would like the MQA feature to hold if I ever used an external dac. 1, 2 and 3. Â, BluOS on 2i  is much better than the CXN app, certainy more family friendly.  The 2i + Gieseler Kompakt DAC will beat the CXN for sound quality. Â. Is that right? chrisp78 Is it pretty? By clicking links on our site, we may earn affiliate commission, but our editorial remains entirely independent and unbiased. I was thinking about upgrading my DAC to a Bimby, but based on what I am reading, I may be able to just purchase a Node 2i, use its internal DAC … Posted on November 12, 2018. by Nordost. If there is a deal on the 658 this November I think it’ll be too hard to resist.  I own a Bluesound Node 2i running through a Naim XS2 intergrated amp to Dynaudio Evoke 30 speakers. Cambridge CXA60 amp. Top guy and the Aust seller and he's in MelbourneÂ, Sources: Bluesound Node 2i, Cambridge CXC CD transport The BlueOS App loads albums and cover art fast and is very responsive. Haha, yep I'm in Melbourne too and know what you mean...Â, Speak to @dacman for denafrips. I can connect the Node 2i to my DAC using co-ax or optical. No changes there, we're using the same DAC in the Node 2i as we did in the Node 2. Good luck! The BlueOS App loads albums and cover art fast and is very responsive. dacs definitely try and audition first. Based on my CA experience I would be going for another CA streamer. 1. If you can grab one second hand you may even have surplus for more power in your system which again would improve the sound.Â, The CXN v2 is tempting but then I haven't explored separate components so a Node 2i and an external DAC has me curious. mattjtaylor2809 Cambridge CXA60 amp, Can't speak on the other devices, but I used to run a Node 2i with a Gieseler Klein III dac/kraftwerk psu. For example, it won’t read files from a simple USB drive. Yeh I hear you, all my boxes are black so it fits fine. Started Tuesday at 11:26 PM, By See if you appreciate the difference between the Bluesound DAC and CXA DAC. Jon's great and will get you pointed in the right direction. Started Wednesday at 11:54 PM, By Any first-hand experience with the above components or ways you would think about this upgrade are greatly appreciated. To bypass the Node's DAC, use a digital output (either COAX or Optical) << sending digital out of the Node ensures your external device does the digital to analog conversion. So bluesound is streamer and CXA is both DAC and power amp, 3) Bluesound to external DAC via digital coax, external DAC to CXA via RCA. I ran a Cat 6 cable to the Bluesound from the router. By James Davies of Absolute Audio. This is very similar to what we want to do: We want to use both the Node2i on board DAC and bypass it to output to our Mojo. It is unlikely there is an output issue via hardware. Built to be better in every way. I’m running a Node 2i into a RME ADI 2 FS DAC and think it sounds excellent. Mytek Brooklyn DAC+, RME ADI-2 DAC FS 2nd, Oppo 205, Audiolab 8300CD, Audio-gd R2R-11, Bluesound Node 2i, Chord Mojo, Behringer UMC202HD, TASCAM MD and CD decks, Sony MD deck … Connect your Bluesound Vault 2i … Melco N100. Thank you. We have yet to try anything that he has suggested but I will update this thread If we find out anything helpful. ... Bluesound Node 2i (Image credit: Melco) 6. ... (Bluesound Node 2i, JFENG UDS-3 DAC… They all have different sound quality.Â. To bypass the DAC of your external amp, use the RCA analog connection << in this way, the Node has already done the digital to audio conversion using its own DAC… I'm tossing up between a Denafrips Ares II and the new Gieseler Kompakt DAC. We are getting distortion unless we disable AV mode. I would like to think that the Kompact takes this up a notch, being the latest. The sound is good but i am considering using the Node as a streamer only and buying an external DAC for a fuller sound with a bit more gravitas to it. A lot of wisdom here I must admit. Anyone here got some thoughts on how to think about an external DAC purchase considering my current equipment? That's correct mate, I use the Ares II with the node 2i as well as the the Oppo 205 with the node 2i. If there is an update available, select the option … Bluesound Node 2i. Naim ND 555/555 PS DR. It’s expensive, but this music streamer sets new sonic standards. Hi, I am considering buying a Node 2i specifically to get the best sound quality from Tidal MQA streams. It seems both have a warm quality with expansive soundstage - which is exactly what I'm after. Which I suspect is more than good enough. Right now, I run the Tidal app on my iPad > Modi Multibit > Bottlehead Crack > HD600/650. I don't even know if the sound quality difference will be noticeable with the CXA60 amp and Dynaudio M20s I own. I would google Bluesound Node problems and see what the reports are. Introducing Bluesound Gen 2i. I found my old CA NP30 setup and connection way easier, sounded way better, never drops out, reliable and reads USB drives with no problems. But from other NAD DACs I tend to find them very detailed but a little analytical and Chord DACs more musical. I'm tossing up between the CXN V2 or node 2i+external DAC (that roughly equates to a $1k budget for the external DAC).Â, Pros of CXN: Chromecast built-in, single box solution, Pros of 2i+DAC: potentially better sound quality and MQA. Bluesound Node 2i for sale. Anyone here have the Ares II and any of the components I mentioned above? If there is a deal on the 658 this November I think it’ll be too hard to resist.  Here's a picture of our proposed setup: The RCA from the Node2I Would provide anything that was processed by the Node2I's internal DAC. The app on the Bluesound is better and includes excellent functions but if you are streaming at distance the range isn’t that good and drops out often.

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